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Knowledge Is Worth Your Time

24 points by topaz0 ago | 7 comments

JanisErdmanis |next [-]

> I admit that I was initially surprised by how often I ran into the attitude from students in these programs that they don't actually need to be well-versed in anything besides the exact information they need to know to conduct research in their field.

The PhD students tend to get this attitude from the competitive publish an perish environment where they are in. Sometimes suprrvisours are contributing by dismissing students gaining context and the big picture on why their research is important when the research topic is preassigned as it is unproductive. When the productivity is measured in papers not curios PhD graduates who contribute to the society that’s true.

travelalberta |root |parent |next [-]

>when the research topic is preassigned

Well, when you have grant money for a project on X most supervisors will not let you do Y. Most students wouldn’t do research on Y if they weren’t going to be funded. I work in a lab where everyone else has to play ball by their grant proposals and you can sense a general lack of genuine curiosity. Which makes sense, they are not really different than a contract employee with a very specific deliverable that was designed before they even showed up. I can’t speak for other fields but especially in biomedical/compsci where your peers are making six figures working for graduate pay for 2 years (MSc) and then another 4-6 (PhD) doesn’t motivate you to engage outside of your exact degree requirements and your project. Add on that “curious” research doesn’t have a guaranteed path to publishing or to success and it suddenly becomes less appealing to gamble your future on such a thing. I would label my own research as “curious” in that I have support from professors at a few universities but on the whole we are facing challenges from academia at large. The only reason I can comfortably pursue something that has a genuine non-zero chance of failing into obscurity is that I am funded by an in-house university scholarship and I have a full time job.

JanisErdmanis |root |parent [-]

All is true, and I agree with you, yet it is deeply unsatisfying for one with original ideas.

cainxinth |root |parent |previous [-]

The entire university system has shifted from general education to specialized job preparedness over the last 100 years.

jzebedee |next |previous [-]

It's an article that unintentionally reinforces the position it criticizes. Yes, knowledge is worth your time. But the author continuously conflates it with academia, before listing many, many reasons why that model is failing.

topaz0 |next |previous [-]

I strongly agree with this sentiment, and it seems to be vastly underappreciated in the last few years.

anon3242 |previous [-]

Isn't this just a paraphrase of the core goals of liberal education? No offense, but I think this sentiment has already been elaborated fully by pioneers of the liberal education in the 20th century.