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No Longer Evil – new life for dead/outdated Nest Generation 1 and 2 thermostats

78 points by pabs3 ago | 8 comments

gnabgib |next [-]

Discussion (385 points, 2 months ago, 141 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45813343

founderofnest |previous [-]

Should Nest have allowed itself to be acquired by Google?

Why did Google add internet connection and internet server dependencies to thermostats?

pfannkuchen |root |parent |next [-]

Probably not, but at the time Google had a better reputation than it does today and I’m guessing Tony had gotten bored by that point.

I don’t have firsthand knowledge regarding the timeline, but I believe the entire product concept for nest required an internet connection and internet server dependencies, didn’t it? Like a fallback mode makes sense and I’m pretty sure there was one, but a lot of the capabilities they were targeting needed internet capabilities. For example could you control the thermostat with your phone only after the acquisition? I think that happened before, and I think it was a foundational part of the concept?

NetMageSCW |root |parent |next |previous [-]

Google didn’t, Nest did before Google purchased them.

fragmede |root |parent |next |previous [-]

Do you have any connection to Tony Fadell or Matt Rogers, or is your username just some happy accident?

culopatin |root |parent [-]

This looks like an account created just to answer in this post with whatever garbage content

founderofnest |root |parent |previous [-]

Why did Google add internet connection and internet server dependencies to thermostats?

Should we have trusted their closed-source thermostat code given the way they've just canceled 1st and 2nd gen devices?

Google Home now has a 3 yr retention policy on everything; whereas Gemini API customers have already negotiated a no retention policy. And they're cancelling Google Assistant, so that's their only option now.

pfannkuchen |root |parent [-]

It seems like you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. There are lots of areas where I have no idea what I’m talking about, but I tend not to confidently interject in those areas. I’m curious what makes you feel differently?