Astro Hacker News - GNU Hurd News 2026-Q2

inigyou |next [-]

Cool to finally see some small silly tech stuff here that isn't trying to make money.

bofadeez |root |parent [-]

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jnpnj |next |previous [-]

It seems Samuel Thibault is still there, sweet.

ps: some slides from earlier this year https://fosdem.org/2026/events/attachments/7FZXHF-updates_on...

full vid here https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/7FZXHF-updates_on_gnu...

csb6 |next |previous [-]

Does anyone more familiar with Hurd know how they addressed performance issues encountered by other Mach-based kernels? I remember reading that one of Mach's bottlenecks was validating that each IPC message had proper permissions/access when sending them between processes due to the large number and frequency of messages.

glhaynes |root |parent |next [-]

Is there reason to think they've addressed them?

floxy |root |parent |previous [-]

Is that a bottleneck anymore? Maybe something that was appreciable in 1994 isn't a big performance hit in 2026?

Analemma_ |root |parent [-]

Isn't it even worse now? The faster computers get, the more that software-induced bottlenecks hurt.

sirsinsalot |next |previous [-]

I hope Hurd has its day. Maybe in 100 years or something.

this_user |root |parent |next [-]

Instead of rewriting Bun, maybe Anthropic should have thrown some tokens at finishing Hurd.

officeplant |root |parent [-]

We'd have to name it Turd then.

achyudh |root |parent |next |previous [-]

Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1508/

EarlKing |root |parent |next |previous [-]

Fun fact: Duke Nukem Forever shipped before GNU Hurd.

lynx97 |root |parent |next |previous [-]

Hurd will have its day once Linux makes it on the desktop :-)

adrian_b |root |parent |next [-]

While I upvoted this, as being true for the general population, for me Linux has made it on the desktop (and laptop) much more than 2 decades ago, around 2003, when the remaining problems that had forced me to use dual-booting with Windows had been solved (i.e. when it became possible in Linux to play movies, read DVDs and use TV tuners). When that happened, I wiped out Windows from my computers.

If you have a pro to help you, already for a long time Linux has been fine on the desktop for anyone. My parents, over 80 years old, have used Linux on their PCs for many years, and they did not even know what "Linux" is. That was possible because I installed and configured for them the operating system and all the applications they needed for reading and writing documents, Internet browsing, e-mail, music listening and movie watching etc.

Windows is easy only because it comes preinstalled. I have installed Windows at work on many kinds of computers and during installation I have encountered much more problems impossible to solve for a non-expert than when installing Linux.

pjmlp |root |parent |next |previous [-]

Linux has made it to the desktop, packaged inside VMs served by Apple, Microsoft and Google.

metalliqaz |root |parent |next [-]

That's not really what everyone means.

However the recent success of gaming-related distros such as SteamOS and Bazzite seem to be succeeding where Usability-focused distros such as Mint, Pop!, and Zorin couldn't get deep traction

inigyou |root |parent |next [-]

This should be a lesson about providing a product versus providing a technology.

Ubuntu is "like Windows but not" which is mostly relevant to people boycotting Windows. Steam Deck is "a gamebox" which people who already like games might want to buy. Bazzite is "a thing that turns your computer into a game box."

pjmlp |root |parent |previous [-]

No, but that is what they will ever get from OEMs selling PCs at computer stores used by normies.

Also lets not forget those distros play Windows games, because hardly any studio bothers with native Linux games.

nemomarx |root |parent [-]

They play both, which is much better for adoption anyway? And it's contributed substantial improvements back to wine and other projects.

NoImmatureAdHom |root |parent |next |previous [-]

It just...has made it. Plenty of power users just use it as their primary OS. I think official figures under-estimate it because many people daily-driving will spoof user agents of other OSes.

And there's Android.

pjmlp |root |parent [-]

Ah, Android, with a userspace based on Java, Kotlin, C and C++ standard libraries, Android native APIs, without anything related to GNU/Linux, unless it is a rooted device, or one gets to package a full Linux userspace as an APK, which isn't fully compatible due to security enforcement mechanisms.

I would look into those statistics regarding desktop world wide adoption, distribution per OS.

jhbadger |root |parent |next [-]

Anyone who wants it can have Termux which gives you a full Linux experience under Android with GNU tools if you want it, though.

pjmlp |root |parent [-]

No it does not.

It gives a Linux experience within the security sandbox from Android, which is why there are limitations when using it on regular devices, via PlayStore.

Also it requires working around the NDK limitations on available POSIX APIs.

vkazanov |root |parent |previous [-]

Oh come on. :-)

Linux is not userspace. Linux is a kernel, and android is a parallel fork of the kernel. So android is a version of linux but is not GNU/Linux.

Android/Linux, if you will. We dont have to be shy this.

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veqq |root |parent |previous [-]

Linux hit 10% desktop usage recently

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pjmlp |root |parent |previous [-]

Not really, that was a fluke, still below 10%, although getting closer with 7.53%.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

vkazanov |root |parent [-]

Both numbers are big, no? Especially given the complete dominance of linux in many other settings.

shevy-java |root |parent |previous [-]

First there will be the Desktop Linux of the year breakthrough. Evil folks say it will coincide with the end of the world via a total global catastrophy but these people don't understand beauty - such as TempleOS, the most perfect OS of all times.

isityettime |next |previous [-]

> I plan to build bootable images and boot the kernel on Apple M1

GuixSD with GNU Hurd would be a really fun way to repurpose an old MBP.

shevy-java |next |previous [-]

Next year will be the year of GNU Hurd, as well as The Desktop Linux Year and people really using HaikuOS on real hardware for years. You read it here first!

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p0w3n3d |previous [-]

Wow.