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Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App
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MS no longer build apps it seems, but instead incubate experiences...What a comms team.
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Microsoft has been going hard in the direction of making OneDrive intrinsic to Windows, so what even is the "OneDrive experience" in contrast to the Windows 11 experience? Who writes this nonsense?
Are we going the other direction now, divorcing Windows 11 from OneDrive, thereby giving OneDrive a distinct "experience" again? Why wasn't this change in direction announced?
I swear it's like Microsoft is just 30,000 chatbots all bickering with each other in the most sanitized, gramatically faultless English imaginible.
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Anybody see any correlation to what can now often be considered ghastly legacy code precisely where there should have been some actual engineering when there was none? Because there were not enough engineers to begin with, so the "drastically" urgent business needs were met in other sometimes mysterious ways?
Now there's a shortage of degreed Experience Incubators and there's a long way to go before there are even enough degree programs, much less freshly credentialed graduates.
Welcome to a whole 'nother era of deficiency until professional Incubatists can finally become numerous enough to complete the trend, apparently as intended to replace engineering as the future of tech :\
Some people have such an amazing vision, it's stupefying :)
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Or more specifically, the people in charge of Windows have no clue about anything.
Satya Nadella has trashed Xbox and trashed Windows.
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2. They are required because applications can ask Windows "what is the 'music' folder" and get back the path. Most of those applications won't expect a missing folder.
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fuzzfactor
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You can't paint a pretty picture here.
It's not like it's one of the hidden defects, it's been obvious for a while.
Disclaimer: I'm older than lots of grandmas now, about in the Bill Gates generation :\
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fuzzfactor
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And everything decent built up from there as much as it can, while declining from there to the maximum degree provided by that structure simultaneously.
Not the ideal foundation to allow an enterprise to rely on, but they were in a hurry, bless their hearts, for fear of other competitive enterprises getting computerized first. It was easily recognizable, since way before Gates was old enough to start Microsoft, I was already just as familiar with the concept of GIGO when I saw it. Except from a business standpoint it was more like watching so many unsuspecting enterprises putting up skyscrapers on the most unsuitably garbaceous landfill for a foundation, which could even be more insidious than more easily recognized garbage input data.
More so than home users, enterprises have always had to settle for a much smaller fraction of the PC hardware capabilities relative to their more extensive needs compared to consumers. The vast majority of the sometimes-rapidly improving performance of hardware over the decades has been completely wasted, and it really adds up. Microsoft has had such a huge hand in this it can not be denied. There is no other way to do the math.
Too many big enterprises act like they can afford to throw away the lion's share of their computing budget (just because a few actually can bear the cost) or they would have started reversing dependency risk as far as necessary a long time ago when it would have been less difficult. It's like there's so much money going out the windows for so long nobody can afford to make a move after that. And consumers still have less of a clue by far.
To quote Microsoft for the umpteenth time, "this is by design."
Except this time it's gotten so ugly the enterprise cost is rising everywhere but Microsoft isn't even getting more money out of it.
Like it's self-reinforcing in some way or another :\
As long as negative value is getting further out-of-control[0] for Windows users across-the-board in spite of their "best" efforts, the pooch remains screwed for all concerned.
[0] Also statistically speaking from a professional quality control perspective.
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Incredible how far macOS and Linux ended up ahead experience wise by doing nothing and just letting apps do their jobs and nothing more.
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Like the elaborate fuckups that included:
• destroying iTunes and the ersatz replacement Music/TV apps that no one asked for
• ruining iPhoto and forcing everyone onto Photos
• breaking backwards compatibility 80,000 times, including on their expensive Pro apps
• the Final Cut Pro X debacle
• nearly every change in iOS for the last five years
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They already know it's a problem: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/03/20/our-com...
So it is genuinely crazy that they are still doing things like this.
Edit: I should also add that a migration away from Windows has a huge network effect so its important for them to stop the bleeding to prevent them hemorrhaging users later.