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OpenAI safety leader quits, warning AI company's culture is 'broken'
charlieyu1
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danpalmer
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A lot of the "AI safety" types are very focused on the latter and not at all concerned with the former. We need both, but we clearly need a much stronger focus on the problems we are seeing now, and much less on the hypothetical problems we might see in the future.
gizmodo59
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While the safety and alignment is a real problem, I don’t get this guy or the Anthropic dude. First world problems.
lhurtig
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switchbak
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... over an unbounded timeframe?
And how exactly?
Those are very round numbers, but also very specific. Can we get some accounting on how you came to that? Anything? Vibes?
I mean, if you want me to take you seriously, let's have a deep discussion with things that can be measured. I absolutely agree that OpenAI and friends aren't being restrained enough and are acting with recklessness, but declarations of doom based on vibes isn't cutting it.
voidhorse
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These "safety" people should have spent more time reading actual cybersecurity textbooks and less time reading EA forums and less wrong (or in Robinson's case, it appears, being policy wonks). Maybe then these labs wouldn't be totally incompetent.
plastic-enjoyer
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This sounds more like an attempt at regulatory capture. Current AI systems aren't physical infrastructure that can just run away like a nuclear power plant, for example. At the end of the day, AI is still just software running on someone's hardware.